Jessi Hempel is with Backchannel, a Web-based platform that covers the tech world. She joins us now.

杰西·海佩尔与Backchannel合作，这是一个覆盖科技界的基于网络的平台。她现在加入我们。

So they would say, look, you know, the Americans needed a backchannel into the Taliban and they encouraged us to bring them over here.

所以他们会说， 看，你知道，美国人需要一个进入塔利班的秘密渠道， 他们鼓励我们把他们带到这里来。