For people who want to follow Pieters' lead, there are ways to reduce exposure.

对于想要跟随彼得斯的人来说，有一些方法可以减少暴露。

Pieters is very pragmatic in his outlook: " We know 'a' and 'b, '" he says.

彼得斯的观点非常务实：“我们知道‘a’和‘b’，”他说。