Yes, an interesting point. And Stephen, I was struck by all the starry names Labour had to wheel out today. Damien Hirst, Steve McQueen, Microsoft's vice-president, the entrepreneur and crossbench peer Martha Lane Fox all endorsing Starmer's plan.

是的，一个有趣的观点。还有斯蒂芬，我被工党今天必须推出的所有星光熠熠的名字所震撼。达米安·赫斯特（Damien Hirst）、Microsoft副总裁史蒂夫·麦昆（Steve McQueen）、企业家和交叉议席同行玛莎·莱恩·福克斯（Martha Lane Fox）都支持斯塔默的计划。