I should tell you that I talked briefly with Borlaug before his death.

我应该告诉你， 我在 Borlaug 去世前与他进行了简短的交谈。

So did Borlaug, later in life, acknowledge the costs of the growth that he helped produce?

杜布纳：那么博洛格在晚年是否承认他帮助实现的增长的成本？

And Borlaug, I think had a better sense of humor.

而 Borlaug， 我认为有更好的幽默感。

So if I could have Borlaug on the way over and transform him to Vogt when I'm there.

因此，如果我可以让 Borlaug 在过来的路上， 并在我在那里时将他转变为 Vogt。

In his acceptance speech, Borlaug said, " the first essential component of social justice is adequate food for all mankind" .

博洛格在获奖感言中说： “社会正义的第一个基本要素（组成部分）是全人类有足够的食物”。

Instead of crossing a few plants together to try for a new variety, Borlaug crossed thousands and thousands, using crop types from all over the world.

不是仅仅将少数植物杂交到一起尝试新品种，博洛格使用来自世界各地的作物类型杂交了成千上万种作物。

Is that a failure of one camp, or is it this construct that has been set up by people like William Vogt, and maybe by Borlaug as well, that we can't escape?

这是一个阵营的失败， 还是像 William Vogt，也许还有 Borlaug 这样的人建立的我们无法逃避的结构？

An article had just come out that was trying to estimate the impact of the Green Revolution, and said that Borlaug and his people, if you looked carefully, had saved 600 million lives.

刚刚发表了一篇文章， 试图估计绿色革命的影响，并说博洛格和他的人民，如果你仔细观察， 已经拯救了 6 亿人的生命。