Yeah, but competitive bikepacking is all about completing these rides self-supported.

CAT：是的，但是竞争性自行车打包就是要自力更生地完成这些骑行。

I still go bikepacking, and when I do I invite people.

我仍然去骑自行车打包，当我这样做时，我会邀请人们。

ESZTER HORANYI: I set a record on every bikepacking race that I did.

ESZTER HORANYI：我在参加的每场自行车包装比赛中都创下了记录。

And I had gotten into these bikepacking races.

猫：我参加了这些自行车包装比赛。

And to keep herself from spiraling out on stories about ovarian cancer, Cat just obsessively started researching this sport she'd come across called bikepacking.

为了防止自己陷入卵巢癌的故事中，凯特开始着迷地研究她偶然发现的这项名为“自行车打包”的运动。

And he's kind of a big deal in the world of competitive bikepacking, which more or less started in the early 2000s.

CAT：他在自行车包装竞技领域具有举足轻重的地位，这一领域或多或少始于 2000 年代初期。

Because remember, there's this rule that when you are competing in one of these bikepacking competitions you can't accept help unless it's available to every other person riding the course.

因为请记住，有一条规则，当您参加其中一项自行车包装比赛时，您不能接受帮助，除非赛道上的所有其他人都可以得到帮助。

That race—really, the whole sport of bikepacking, it flipped aloneness from this thing that was so painful into this thing that saved Cat, taught her how to heal herself.

瑞秋：那场比赛——真的，整个自行车运动，它把孤独从如此痛苦的事情转变为拯救凯特的事情，教会她如何治愈自己。

So before the break, we told you about this woman Lael Wilcox who did this incredible competitive bikepacking ride, 830 miles through Arizona—the deserts, the mountains, the forests, down the Grand Canyon, back up the other side.

CAT：所以在休息之前，我们向您介绍了这位女士 Lael Wilcox，她完成了这次令人难以置信的自行车打包骑行比赛，全程 830 英里，穿过亚利桑那州——沙漠、山脉、森林，沿着大峡谷，回到另一边。