Most people in this room own companies via their superannuation funds, their banks and their insurers.

在座的大多数人通过他们的养老基金、银行和保险公司拥有公司。

And then I realized, it wasn't just superannuation funds, it was banks, insurers and fund managers.

然后我意识到， 不仅仅是养老基金，还有银行、保险公司和基金经理。

So I started discussing the issue with my superannuation fund, and I've been discussing it ever since.

所以我开始和我的养老基金讨论这个问题，从那以后我就一直在讨论这个问题。