Ah… do you mean the19th century Hungarian doctor, Ignaz Semmelweiss?

啊，你是说19世纪的匈牙利医生伊格纳兹·塞梅尔维斯吗？

Ah...... do you mean the19th century Hungarian doctor, Ignaz Semmelweiss?

啊......你是说19世纪的匈牙利医生伊格那茨·塞梅尔维斯吗？

But Dr Semmelweiss is also a good example of science communication.

但是塞梅尔维斯医生也是科学交流的一个范例。

Dr Semmelweiss sounds like a scientific hero so I'll say, a) he won the Nobel prize.

塞梅尔维斯医生听起来像是一个科学英雄，所以我说是a)他获得了诺贝尔奖。

Remember, I asked you what happened to Dr Semmelweiss in the end?

还记得吗，我问你塞梅尔维斯医生最后怎么样了？

Here she is talking to BBC Radio 4s Science Stories: Semmelweiss is kind of my patron saint.

这是她接受BBC广播4频道的《科学故事》节目采访时说的：伊格纳兹·塞梅尔维斯可以说是我的守护神。

Semmelweiss is kind of my patron saint.

塞梅尔维斯可以说是我的守护神。

Remember, I asked you what happened to Dr Semmelweiss in the end.

还记得吗，我问你塞梅尔维斯医生最后有什么际遇。

And she was clearly influenced by the work of Dr Semmelweiss, because she calls him her patron saint - a kind of guide and protector believed to give special help or inspiration.

她显然受到了塞梅尔维斯医生的影响，因为她称他是自己的守护神——一种给予特别帮助或启发的引导者和保护者。

So for me the lesson from Semmelweiss is: don't scream and shout and accuse people of doing things wrongly, but patiently get the data out there and tell your story in a positive way.

所以，对我来说，塞梅尔维斯给出的教训是：不要大吼大叫，不要指责别人做错了事情，而是要耐心收集数据，用积极的方式讲述出来。

The work of 19th century scientist Ignaz Semmelweiss was so inspiring that even today, some doctors consider him the patron saint of hygiene - an expression referring to a protecting or guiding saint believed to give special help or inspiration.

19世纪科学家伊格纳兹·塞梅尔维斯的研究工作是如此鼓舞人心，以至于直到今天，一些医生仍将他视为卫生守护神——这个表达是指被认为给予特别帮助或启发的保护圣徒或指引圣徒。