It's just punching air down your throat.

空气直接往喉咙里灌。

You're gonna punch the dough down after it's doubled in size.

面团变大，然后再揉压下去。

And then you're doing what's called punch down, as the grapes are like, being crushed.

然后你要做的是所谓的向下打孔，葡萄就这样被压碎。

While you weren't looking, I punched down the dough and let it rest for 15 minutes more.

趁你不看的时候，我把面团打了下去，让它再静置15分钟。

And which we are then instructed to punch down, divide into two loaves, and place into oiled loaf pans.

然后我们被指示将其打下来，分成两个面包， 然后放入涂了油的面包盘中。

I mean, we're not like -- you know, we're never punching down with our -- we're always trying to like, punch up, for sure.

我的意思是，我们不像 - 你知道的，我们从来没有用我们的 - 我们总是试图喜欢，打起来，肯定的。

He is also careful not to punch down, backtracking a couple of times during our interview over indiscretions about past productions, usually involving one of his pet hates: directors.

在我们的采访中，他也小心翼翼地避免出言不逊，几次因为对过去作品的轻率评论而回头，这些评论通常涉及他最讨厌的人之一：导演。

And you can see it's two guys honestly and actually trying to be better people, and not so much being sensitive, but just being actual good human beings and not punching down on people for absolutely no reason.

你可以看到这是两个人， 他们诚实地努力成为更好的人，而不是太敏感，而是做真正的好人， 而不是无缘无故地打压别人。

So don't ask " Will this make me sound funny? " Instead, ask: " How will this make other people feel? " NB: Which also means never punching down, that is, making fun of someone of lower status.

所以不要问“这会让我听起来很有趣吗？ ”相反，问：“这会让其他人感觉如何？ ” 注意：这也意味着永远不要打压， 也就是说，不要取笑地位较低的人。