That said, this economy has been plugging along. What Steve is talking about are some really dangerous things, which is we're heading now into another standoff over the debt ceiling.

也就是说，这种经济一直在停滞不前。史蒂夫所说的是一些非常危险的事情，那就是我们现在正进入另一个关于债务上限的僵局。