It's kind of a theme in paleoanthropology, every bone you find seems to make the story less simple.

这是古人类学中的一个主题，你发现的每一根骨头似乎都让故事变得不那么简单。

It makes us think differently, and, in the late 1990s, there were some behavioral abnormalities within paleoanthropology that bothered me a lot.

它使我们的思维方式不同，在 20 世纪 90 年代末，古人类学内部有一些行为异常，这让我很困扰。

Until Lucy, the field of paleoanthropology was based mostly on scraps and conjecture, which the book Lee Berger was reading made clear.

在露西之前，古人类学的领域主要是基于残片和猜想，李·伯格在读的那本书就说明了这一点。

Like, it's not lost on me that in my particular field of paleoanthropology we study human origins, but we have so few diverse scientists.

比如，在我特定的研究人类起源的古人类领域，这并非对我不起作用，但是我们鲜有各类科学家。

And I was in a very powerful position, a young man made director in seemingly one of the most powerful chairs in the science of paleoanthropology.

我当时处于一个非常有权势的位置，一个年轻人被任命为主任，在古人类学的科学领域里，似乎是最有权势的位置之一。

ALICE WINKLER: It was becoming clear to Lee Berger that the future of paleoanthropology was going to be in the lab, looking at the fossils already discovered decades before with new tools. Berger began thinking about a career shift.

李·伯格开始意识到，古人类学的未来将在实验室里进行，用新的工具研究几十年前已经发现的化石，伯格开始考虑转行。