" The view in Japan was: You are cool the more hours you work, putting in free overtime, " Ogino said with a laugh.

“日本的观点是：工作时间越多，你就越酷，免费加班。”小野笑着说。

To ensure none of the NS Group's workers feel out of place for choosing a different schedule, Ogino asks each of her 4,000 employees twice a year how they want to work.

为了确保NS集团的员工不会因为选择了不同的工作安排而感到不自在，荻野每年会询问她的4000名员工两次，了解他们希望如何工作。

" The view in Japan was: You are cool the more hours you work, putting in free overtime, " Ogino said with a laugh. " But there is no dream in such a life."

“在日本，人们的观点是：你工作的时间越长，无偿加班越多，你就越酷。”“但这样的生活没有梦想。”