One firm that NAWA does admit to working with is Saft, a large batterymaker owned by Total, a French oil giant keen to diversify from fossil fuels.

NAWA承认有合作的一家公司是“帅福得”，“帅福得”是想要从化石燃料转向多元化的。

The thicket of nanotubes in a VACNT electrode should operate like a cage to keep the silicon in check, says Pascal Boulanger, a physicist who helped found NAWA in 2013.

2013年协助发现NAWA的物理学家帕斯卡尔·布朗热称VACNT电极中错综复杂的纳米管就像笼子一样控制着硅。