But we know someone who has been there, his name is Rob McCallum.

但我们知道Rob McCallum去过那里。

New Zealander Rob McCallum is one of them.

新西兰人Rob McCallum就是其中之一。

" Selfish, reckless, arrogant, ignorant-he hits every marker of the bad boss, " Mr McCallum says.

“自私、鲁莽、傲慢、无知——他具备糟糕老板的所有特征。”麦卡勒姆说。

There is no doubt that recent events in Afghanistan will have emboldened extremists, Ken McCallum told the BBC.

肯·麦卡勒姆对BBC表示，毫无疑问，最近发生在阿富汗的事件将给极端分子壮胆。

The Immigration Minister John McCallum said Canadian will rather take extra time to carry out the process correctly.

难民部长麦约翰·麦家廉将延缓接收难民计划。

MI5's head Ken McCallum said they were facing a very difficult cocktail of risks when it came to extremism.

军情五处负责人肯·麦卡勒姆表示，在极端主义问题上，他们面临着一系列非常困难的风险。

And I had the opportunity to interview Mr. McCallum about the experience not long after he hit rock bottom and then resurfaced again last month.

我有机会采访到了McCallum先生，他讲述了上个月到达深渊底部后不久又重新浮出水面的经历。

And I had the opportunity to interview Mr. McCallum about the experience, not long after he hit rock bottom and then resurfaced in early 2021.

我有机会采访到了McCallum先生，他讲述了2021年初到达深渊底部后不久又重新浮出水面的经历。