We had an IRB, we thought through a lot, like we engaged with ethics like Hank Reilly who still doesn't really love us, but we engaged with him.

我们有一个IRB， 我们想了很多，就像我们与汉克·赖利（Hank Reilly）这样的道德人士打交道， 他仍然并不真正爱我们，但我们与他打交道。