12 Is Hamlet really more autonomous than Hecuba?

12 哈姆雷特真的比赫卡柏更自主吗？

Or are both Hamlet and Hecuba suffering from similar symptoms of radical self-alienation?

还是哈姆雷特和赫卡柏都患有类似的极端自我异化症状？

Indeed, in the trial scene, Hecuba seems (anachronistically, again) to know this tale.

事实上，在审判场景中， Hecuba 似乎（再次不合时宜地）知道这个故事。

Hecuba replies to Helen in lucidly rational terms, replying point by point and refuting her arguments decisively.

Hecuba 以清晰理性的方式回复 Helen，逐条回复并果断反驳她的论点。

But here's the twist: although Menelaus is persuaded by Hecuba's superior argument, Hecuba is undercut and loses.

但这里有一个转折点：虽然墨涅拉俄斯被赫卡柏的优越论据说服了，但赫卡柏却被削弱了， 输了。

Hecuba, perhaps knowing the case is futile, adds, " A man in love once never is out of love again, " or " once a lover, always a lover" (line 1051).

Hecuba， 也许知道这个案子是徒劳的，补充说，“一个恋爱过的人永远不会再失去爱，” 或者“一旦是情人， 永远是情人” （第 1051 行）。

In his Hecuba, we see the eponymous Trojan queen " tormented incomprehensibly, " layering one indignity upon another until she is finally told that she will be cursed in the afterlife by returning in the form of a dog.

在他的 Hecuba 中， 我们看到同名的特洛伊女王“受到无法理解的折磨”，一种侮辱叠加在另一种侮辱上， 直到她最终被告知她将在来世以狗的形式返回时受到诅咒。