Many others were shocked by Trump's tweet, according to Anton Harber, who teaches journalism at Witwatersrand University in Johannesburg.

据安顿·哈勃表示，许多其他人也对特朗普的推文感到震惊，哈勃在约翰内斯堡金山大学教授新闻学。

It does give us hope that if we put them up ... they will use them, Harber said as swifts flew close to a real chimney.

哈伯表示，" 雨燕飞近一个真正的烟囱时，这确实给了我们希望，如果我们建造这些建筑… … 雨燕就有地方栖身。

Harber is on the board of a fact-checking group that has looked into some of the myths in this debate over land reform in post-apartheid South Africa.

哈勃是一个事实核查组织的监事会成员，该组织对后种族隔离时代的南非在土地改革辩论中出现的一些谣言进行了调查。

" It does give us hope that if we put them up … they will use them, " Harber said as swifts flew close to a real chimney.

哈伯说，" 当雨燕飞近一个真正的烟囱时，这确实给了我们希望，如果我们建造这些建筑… … 雨燕就有地方栖身。"