So perhaps you might have met the American Samoans and mixed them up perhaps.

所以可能你见到的是美属萨摩亚人，你可能弄混了。

Today, Charlie and Neil have another case going with some American Samoans in Utah.

朱莉娅：今天，查理和尼尔又接到了一起犹他州一些美属萨摩亚人的案件。

If it were put to a vote, would you make American Samoans automatic citizens?

朱莉娅：如果进行投票，您会让美属萨摩亚人自动成为公民吗？

Lene says he just wanted the court to give  some kind of explanation for why American Samoans had been treated this way.

朱莉娅：莱恩说，他只是希望法庭对美属萨摩亚人为何受到这种对待做出某种解释。

For one, she thinks, you know, American Samoans are already running off to the  US to find, like, what they think is gonna be a better life.

朱莉娅：首先，她认为，美属萨摩亚人已经跑到美国去寻找他们认为会更好的生活。

Now even though birthright citizenship wouldn't necessarily change all that, I still  expected them to want birthright citizenship for American Samoans, but they both told me no.

朱莉娅：现在，尽管与生俱来的公民身份不一定会改变这一切，但我仍然希望他们希望美属萨摩亚人拥有与生俱来的公民身份，但他们都告诉我不。

But then I started making calls  to American Samoans living in American Samoa, and I realized there might be a more  complicated reason why American Samoans still are not US citizens after all these years.

但后来我开始给居住在美属萨摩亚的美属萨摩亚人打电话，我意识到为什么这么多年之后美属萨摩亚人仍然不是美国公民，可能有更复杂的原因。

But the reason I wanted to talk to Charles is that he has a case  right now pending before the federal courts that's basically Isabelle Gonzalez in 2019.  He's arguing that denying American Samoans birthright citizenship is unconstitutional.

朱莉娅：但我想与查尔斯交谈的原因是，他目前正在联邦法院审理一个案件，该案件基本上是 2019 年伊莎贝尔·冈萨雷斯 (Isabelle Gonzalez) 的案件。他认为否认美属萨摩亚人出生公民权是违宪的。

And so at this point in my trip, I was  curious how other American Samoans—even ones who aren't in the States trying to get a job—how  they felt about this case and about citizenship.

朱莉娅：所以在我旅行的这个阶段，我很好奇其他美属萨摩亚人——即使是那些不在美国试图找工作的人——他们对这个案件和公民身份有何感受。